Glucose/ dextrose

[sarosh]

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/19/richard-johnson-interview-may-18-2010.aspx

I found this article in Dr. Mercola.com. As most of us use dextorse / glucose, please read under , " Is Glucose a safer alternative sweetner"

[charlie]

So, by this article it could mean you lot will be alot healthier than those religiously scoffing their 5 a day!!!! Its certainly an interesting read. I've worried all along about glucose and Megan as it just doesn't seem to suit her, maybe I'm starting to see why

[meaniejean]

Very interesting! Glucose into fructose ... yikes!

[tikitavi]

I just wanted to mention that I just had another horrible reaction to dextrose this week. This has happened before. This time, we tried making shortbread cookies with just flour, butter, and a small amount of dextrose. But, I had a horrible reaction. It took me a while to trace down the culprit - but I narrowed it down and sure enough, the next time I had our cookies, I had a reaction again. So for me, storebought dextrose is not pure enough to risk using in recipes.

[ukbill]

Yes very useful, well found Sarosh.

I think Dr Mercola has answered or possibly answered one question that has been bothering me for ages..

Why after a bad reaction am I ultra sensitive to anything tasting sweet, for several days afterwards..(6 month+ after challenge test!)

I wonder and suspect that its a result of our Uric acid level in the blood is too high??

This could lead to very interesting possibilities.

It would also explain why occasionally I can go "sensitive or even Hyper-sensative" without having had a reaction to Fructose.

It might also explain to a degree why some people only react days after eating Fructose. Yet seem to be in all other ways HFI.

I think I have worked out that so long as we are getting enough Starch we can apparently "handle" quite high loads of Fructose and not get a reaction..

For example I used to eat some quite bad HFI wise meals by "buffering" myself with enough White rice.

Also sometimes I can eat a meal but not feel the "benefit" so to speak.. I just don't feel the lovely warm glow I get from a good meal if it is really very low in Fructose. This usually indicates to me that I have had quite a dose of Fructose in the meal usually from baked potatoes!

This is one reason why I think the "tolerated" foods list needs an urgent update..

There should be two lists.

1/. HFI safe foods, (meat, fish, cheese, starches etc..)

2/. An a "Tolerated in varying amounts" foods list, with suitable warnings not to eat too much from this list in any week or month.

I know some people are not able to "handle" things like gluten or Lactose (milk sugar) but that is a different problem not an HFI one. (unless its as a result of liver damage. )

To develop this further as a theory we need blood uric acid levels from confirmed HFI people while feeling "Normal" and when "sensitive or Hyper sensitive" to see if the Uric acid level is higher while we are not feeling good.

I have just had my blood Uric acid level checked so I will have a base line figure for me anyway..

Tomorrow I see my Doctor to get the results, so will ask her if we can do another test a day or so after I have deliberately had a largish dose of Fructose followed by a third test say a week later or when I feel better again.

Anyone else feel like making them selves ill for a week or so in the interest of science??

Seriously no don't do it until we at least get the results form my own experiment.. assuming the Dr will play ball

IF this works then I will be a very good way to detect hidden Fructose say in a tub of Dextrose.

Test before eating any Dextrose for a few weeks then test again the day after having a good slug of the stuff.

I bet the Uric acid level will be higher

Only please don't expect me to do it there are some thing's even I will not do!

Food (HFI safe variety) for thought anyway.

Keep looking folks as the saying used to go "The truth is out there"

Sorry references to old TV series my son used to religiously watch. called the "X Files"

[Tammy]

The Uric Acid aspect has been brought up before. I printed an article off one time that mentions it briefly. It even lists it as one of the tests to help confirm the diagnosis.

Another interesting statement was:
Preliminary evidence suggests that parents of a child with this disorder (as well as other carriers of the mutant gene) may be at increased risk for gout.

I still have the article, but unfortunately it looks as though it was bought by someone else.
The original article was here:
www.adam.com/democontent/hie/ency/srticle/000359.htm

I'm not sure if you could get any info from them if you contacted them or not if you're interested.

It was just titled "Hereditary fructose intolerance".
The bottom credits state:
Review Date: 8/19/2003
Reviewed By: Douglas R. Stewart, MD, Division of Medical Genetics, Hospital of the Univ of Pennsylvania, Philadelphis, PA.
Review provided by VeriMed Healthcare Network.

[esmee]

According to Dr. Richard Johnson in his book The Sugar Fix, a normal uric acid level was 2.5 - 3.0 at the turn of last century (early 1900s) when fructose consumption was still very low. In 1990, it had climbed to 5.5 - 6.0 on average, as fructose in the diet increased. Today, he believes it may be even higher, though no statistics have recently been collected. I had mine tested recently, only a few weeks into a low fructose diet and it was 5.5. I wish I had had it measured when my diet was higher in fructose, so I would have a comparison. But, clearly, a few weeks of low fructose eating was not long enough to bring my uric acid level down into what Dr. Johnson considers to be the healthy range of 2.5 - 3.0. These numbers are lower than what Mercola sites in his article interview with Dr. Johnson.

[charlie]

This maybe due to metabolic acidosis, it is something I have been looking into for meg and trying to make sense of so only halfway through understanding it. Very medical article
emedicine.medscape.com/article/242975-overview
takes alot of reading as very technical explains about the hydrogen ions etc. On etiology, 2nd section if you scroll down it lists fructose intolerance as a cause of Type 2 RTA which is renal tubular acidosis caused by a renal acidification defect)

It was something mentioned in relation to the seizures Meg seems to get but so far all the articles are very technical so not got far understanding it. But it may explain why those testing high on a hydrogen breath test are getting these high results, Meg blew the graph after an hour on 124, anything over 20 is positive!!! It may be due to the high hydrogen emissions from the breakdown of fructose. Due to see metabolics next week so going to ask them.

I think it can be detected from what I read by a urine test so you could buy yourself some sticks over the internet and test the ph of your urine. Also looks like can be balanced well by bicarbonate of soda.