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Post by meaniejean on Aug 10, 2009 8:49:52 GMT -5
Do any of you get this symptom from fructose?
When I get fructose my abdomen between m belly button and my ribs gets really tender to touch. It kinda feels like I am bruised inside. Sometimes it hurts if it is poked even very lightly. It also sticks out a little more than usual.
Anyone else? What could that be?
I had a little bit of lime juice the other night and the next morning my abdomen was really tender. I know, I know - lime juice is not allowed. Don't worry, the nausea and pain have taught me my lesson ; )
Thanks,
Sandra
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Post by colormist on Aug 10, 2009 11:43:52 GMT -5
I get kidney pain after eating fructose. It's in the same area, but usually settles near my spine/back. Feels like cramps (the girlie type). I'm not sure if that's the same thing.
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Post by meaniejean on Aug 10, 2009 12:49:51 GMT -5
I get that kidney pain too, but it is almost always on my left side, low-mid back. This is more of about an inch or so below my rib cage in the front, right and left of center (there is actually no tenderness in the center at all). Pain is worse on the right side.
It happened when I tried those Dove Sugar-Free Chocolates too.
I'm in a total brain fog today too - can barely focus my eyes ... need to go find some green tea!
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Post by colormist on Aug 10, 2009 13:06:59 GMT -5
Malitol. At first you think you're fine, then it reminds you not to ever eat it again.
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Post by meaniejean on Aug 10, 2009 14:15:51 GMT -5
Man, isn't that the truth! Mmmm, what yummy chocolate ... oh my God my insides are on fire ...
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Post by colormist on Aug 11, 2009 9:19:27 GMT -5
LOL, with me it was Red Vines (red licorice). I was so happy to eat licorice again. Thankfully I refrained from eating the whole pack at once.
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Post by meaniejean on Aug 11, 2009 10:27:24 GMT -5
I felt that way recently about some flavorings we found. I was so excited to have a fake chocolate milk that I was refusing to admit that the glycerin in the flavoring was making me miserable - ugh!!!
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Post by CJSculpts on Dec 27, 2009 17:09:50 GMT -5
I get severe abdominal pain and bloating. The pain is usually most noticeable around the waistline of my pants. Although at times, I get head-to-toe muscle spasm like pain. I DO have the same spot that you are describing where the ribs come together above the belly that sticks out. It is kind of fun to watch how drastically my body changes shape DAILY on my new fructose-free diet. The bloating is really a full body bloat (even arms) which made me look much fatter than I am and even pregnant. I still need to call a friend that told me that I looked pregnant when she picked me up from the airport several years ago. I was so mad at her because I was thinking that she was falling into her Orange County stereotype that I let the friendship drift apart. I reminded herat the time that I had sever GI problems but now I really wish that I had listened to her. Looks like I was the one whoe was being judgmental. It is kind of sad to look back at all of the signs but I am really glad to finally know what hit me!
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Post by margy on Dec 28, 2009 19:04:02 GMT -5
Hi. am a new member and am very happy to have a found people experiencing the same symptoms. For years I have put up with severe diarrhea, fainting, altered heart rate, and bad, really bad back pain. I had disc surgery, which turned out to be unnecessary, chinese massage and accupuncture, physiotherapy and no relief. After altering my diet I found relief when I went of fruit, wheat and sugar. The pain that racked my whole body each night ceased. I saw a dramatic difference in pain reduction when I found this web site and the wikipedia connection, and stuck to only recommended vegetables. That was three months ago. Everything has been going well, but last night I cooked a meal with beef stock and I experienced the bloating and pain again. The ingrediants listed sugar and natural flavours. I know sugar is 50% fructose. Is sugar in this product a no no?
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Post by CJSculpts on Dec 29, 2009 0:13:08 GMT -5
Margy, I welcome you one newbie to another. : )
I also have experienced unexplained head-to-toe muscle spasms (night sweats too which I forgot to mention earlier.) EVERYTHING has been relieved by sticking to the diet. Be very careful about using pre-made stocks, etc. Here are teh following potential pitfalls:
- Onions and garlic. Most stock, soups and sauces are started with Onions or garlic. While they are not problematic for everyone with HFI/FM, they are for many. I did recently read that, if the flesh of the onions are removed, then it is okay. I have only seen this on one list and I am not sure that I believe it.
- Carrots. Another common ingredient to start stock, soups and sauces. Not good for HFI/FM.
- Sugar. Sugar is on the maybe list. Common household sugar comes from two sources, beets and cane. Sugar from cane might be okay for some with HFI/FM but beet sugaris generally a no go. Unfortunately, it is impossible to tell from most labels which type is used.
Hope this helps!
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Post by colormist on Dec 29, 2009 11:09:05 GMT -5
Just a quick note about sugar--sugar, for HFI, should be avoided entirely. If you see sugar on an ingredients list, best to avoid that item rather than get seriously ill. I'm not sure what type of diagnosis you have, so I thought I'd put that out there.
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Post by margy on Dec 29, 2009 15:18:48 GMT -5
I have not been diagnosed as yet. I have been searching for an answer for years and have only found relief when I don't eat any fruit, sugar and limited veggies. I suffered severe migraines for a long time until I stopped eating chili, peppers and high salicylate foods. This cut out a lot of vegetables abd fruits, so I felt better. But the diarrhea, back pain, chills, night sweats and vertigo remained. I found the vertigo was directly related to eating sweet food (almost instant reaction) which was generally followed the next day with pain in my back. Honey almost cripples me for days. Oh, and my breath could sink a prawn trawler! Fruit gelato passes through me at the speed of light. Next week I go to see the GP, although she looks me as if to say 'whats next'.
One question, how much of the safe veggies can you eat at one sitting. I had spinach last night, about a cup full, and had a slight reaction?
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Post by colormist on Dec 29, 2009 15:53:22 GMT -5
Dragon breath--my husband complains about that near daily.
As far as veggies, if you're experiencing a reaction you should probably cut them out entirely. However, if you're eating the spinach with something else (dressing, perhaps) it might be the something else that's causing the reaction.
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Post by margy on Dec 29, 2009 16:07:49 GMT -5
Maybe its the type of spinach. I ate silverbeet, which has large white veins. Maybe I should try the english spinach which is all green. I also had about a tablespoon of brocolli.
I have noticed I have no trouble with what I call black lettuce, which is a very dark coloured lettuce. I think some call it black oakleaf lettuce.
Good thing is that the reaction I get doesn't last long, unlike in the past when it would go for days.
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Post by CJSculpts on Dec 30, 2009 1:32:56 GMT -5
 Colormist, thanks for clearing up the sugar thing. I have seen sucrose as long as it is cane sugar pop-up up as okay on most, but not alists that I have seen and have found this a bit confusing. And, waaaaaaaaah!!! Adam apparently thought that I have had bad breath for the last three years but never told despite my asking over and over!! He says that it is gone now on the new diet. Better be or else I will have to walk around like this:   Margy, kepp us updated on whether or not you react to regular spinach. I have been eating baby spinach like it has been going out of style. I have been really sick since Sunday night and have no idea why. The spinach that I ate that night was a variety called "Winter Spinach" and we started wondering if it has a different sugar content. Just now, I Googled winter spinach and the White House blog (funny huh?)say, "Winter spinach is extra sweet. Sugar doesn’t freeze, so spinach produces extra sugars in the winter to protect itself from frost." I am not sure if this refers to the variety or to all spinach grown during the winter in a cold climate. Yikes this just keeps getting more complicated! I have been diagnosed via Hydrogen Breath Test and have been trying to identify the best way to confirm if it is HFI or FM. I got incredibly pissed at the Mayo in AZ today. I scheduled an appointment with their "expert" a month ago for mid-Feb. Then they switched me to his colleague. I have been trying to verify what the plan is and that shes know what she is doing for weeks. We called again today to try again only to be told that the big plan was the breath test!! The person on the phone had NO idea what HFI was or that their is a difference. Aaaaaargh!! I am going to send an email to B.U. tonight. Their website now says that the test is $450. I still do not understand why insurance would not cover it. I have spent 12k so far this year on medical bills in addition to insurance premiums and would love not to add too much to that. Sounds like I should check out Baylor too??
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Post by colormist on Dec 30, 2009 9:08:02 GMT -5
Oh snaps, I just heard on NPR that the chef for the White House said that very same thing. I don't think I've tried winter spinach (or will now).
Fred has mentioned that they can do the HFI test with a mouth swab now--they don't even need to draw blood. This might make it a bit cheaper? Probably not. At least it's easier to perform.
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Post by CJSculpts on Dec 31, 2009 3:09:10 GMT -5
So, I am pretty sure that it was the spinach from Sunday night. This was a special type known as Savoy or Bloomsdale spinach. Apparently the stems have extra sugar and this enormous salad had all stems in tact. It was delicious but I am still so sick that I could make my own breakfast this morning. : / Now I know to be type specific. All food tests will be little bits at a time.
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Colormist, thanks for clearing up the sugar thing. I have seen sucrose as long as it is cane sugar pop-up up as okay on most, but not alists that I have seen and have found this a bit confusing. And, waaaaaaaaah!!! Adam apparently thought that I have had bad breath for the last three years but never told despite my asking over and over!! He says that it is gone now on the new diet. Better be or else I will have to walk around like this: 
Margy, kepp us updated on whether or not you react to regular spinach. I have been eating baby spinach like it has been going out of style. I have been really sick since Sunday night and have no idea why. The spinach that I ate that night was a variety called "Winter Spinach" and we started wondering if it has a different sugar content. Just now, I Googled winter spinach and the White House blog (funny huh?)say, "Winter spinach is extra sweet. Sugar doesn’t freeze, so spinach produces extra sugars in the winter to protect itself from frost." I am not sure if this refers to the variety or to all spinach grown during the winter in a cold climate. Yikes this just keeps getting more complicated!