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Post by meaniejean on Apr 16, 2009 10:43:24 GMT -5
Hi all-
I did a little research and found that magnesium deficiency can occur with fructose intolerance. I think it had something to do with increased levels of magnesium entering the blood stream when fructose is ingested and then it being excreted in the urine. I could be way off on that because I am a little sleep deprived ; ) Magnesium deficiency can also occur with malabsorption disorders.
Anyway, I just started taking a magnesium supplement to see what would happen. This is purely anecdotal, but - no more constipation or muscle pain. Going to try this with the littles soon as it has been so effective for me. It is supposed to help with temperament and sleep as well, so this could possibly explain some of the delayed symptoms of fructose ingestion in our little ones.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
-Sandra
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Post by charlie on Apr 16, 2009 14:12:10 GMT -5
Thats an interesting idea, could make sense. Have done a search and found this site with interesting info: www.calmnatural.co.uk/magnesium-deficiency Certainly could explain the night pains. Also when Megs is bad she hates loud noises etc which is mentioned in nevousness bit. Looking at what is high in magnesium it wouldn't surprisse me if there was a deficiency as Greens are out as are whole grains. OK gang, what are the chances of finding a magnesium supplement that doesn't contain fructose or glucose. First one to the post earns: umm, let me think. A cheese stick??? |
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Post by colormist on Apr 16, 2009 15:13:17 GMT -5
www.basicvitamins.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1739I love that vitamin company. They have a few other types of magnesium as well. What the heck is up with vitamin companies putting sugar in the vitamins anyway?? I was trying to find a plain Vitamin C at CVS and was looking FOREVER. They're vitamin pills--they shouldn't taste good.
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Post by tatyanasmom on Apr 18, 2009 11:00:09 GMT -5
Hello This so sounds like Tatyana. On her bad days she will jump at any little noise She is more agitated . She can't take bright rooms. The real interesting one is since the end of last year she started with this eye blinking thing and says her eyes bother her. We brought her in to the eye doctor and they found nothing wrong. In the link for magnesium it says about the eye muscles don't function correct and they do this blinking. OF course the sleeplessness. We might have to try a magnesium vitamin. The things I learn from this site is wonderful. thank you. . Heidi
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Post by charlie on Apr 18, 2009 13:49:16 GMT -5
Well done Laura, thanks, you win the prize . Not sure if we can get them over here, will look into it. See what happens.
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Debra
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Post by Debra on Apr 23, 2009 5:35:22 GMT -5
This is interesting! My youngest son had a terrible time with loud noises in early childhood. I suspect he has HFI. But I raised him in a low sugar household so his history shows relatively mild symptoms. I think I can add this to the list of possible symtoms.
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Post by meaniejean on Apr 27, 2009 20:36:45 GMT -5
So, the magnesium is working like a dream!!! Calvin has been off of Miralax now for two weeks and Sawyer has been off of Miralax for almost a week. Both of them are doing really well with the magnesium supplement. I can't believe that a doctor never recommended this to us or checked for a deficiency. Grrr!
Hope you all have equally great results!
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Post by charlie on Apr 28, 2009 14:37:48 GMT -5
To be honest, haven't dared try anything else new but that is encouraging so may well now. What did they have miralax for?
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Post by mazian on Nov 10, 2009 6:14:16 GMT -5
What about zinc deficiencies? Is that common with HFI?
Where do we get information about what supplements we should be taking? Does anyone know a site?
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Post by CJSculpts on Dec 27, 2009 5:27:36 GMT -5
Interesting...according to the link, low magnesium levels can also cause "abnormal heart rhythm." Colormist, I know that you were inquiring about arrhythmia. I suffer too. Perhaps this is the cause?? Berry interesting...
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Post by colormist on Dec 29, 2009 11:54:19 GMT -5
Hmmmmm... good to know. I'll send an email to my mom and tell her to get my brother on a safe magnesium supplement and see if it helps at all. He has to wear a medic-alert bracelet right now for the army due to his abnormal heart rhythm.
Mine seems to have mostly gone away. Probably wouldn't hurt to make sure it's in my vitamins.
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Post by CJSculpts on Dec 30, 2009 1:52:53 GMT -5
Colormist, I have been thinking about your brother. I think that I remember reading that he is on a pace maker?? (I read a lot in the middle of the night so I might have confused this with something else.) My arrhythmia has always been either a heavy fluttering feeling or my heart beating like a baby bird that flew into a window. The reason that I am concerned about your brother is that someone whose life and, possibly even more, so death touched our lives very closely in so many ways died after a sudden, previously unsuspected, heart problem. He was in his thirties with no history at all other than smoking. Apparently he had a congenital timing issue and his heart just missed some beats and got out of rhythm until he dropped like a stone. Had he know, he could have had a pacemaker and lived a normal life. I hope that your brother has the right doctors and takes his health seriously - HFI diagnosis or not. I know that this is heavy, but sounds like you two are close and it's been on my mind.
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Post by CJSculpts on Dec 30, 2009 2:05:18 GMT -5
BTW...how do you tell if vitamins & meds have fructose or not??
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Post by colormist on Dec 30, 2009 9:14:41 GMT -5
My brother isn't on a pacemaker (I don't think), but he has to wear a special something for the army. (Memory loss has to be a side effect of HFI, I swear.) You can tell if vitamins have fructose in them by reading the label--mainly. If the vitamin is unusually vague with their ingredients, then best to try one that isn't. "Basic" vitamins tend to not have sugar in them (except for the flavored varieties). As for meds, I've been seeing google alerts for articles about medications that are specifically pointing out warnings for HFI if certain medications have fructose in them. These articles are usually Canadian based. If I get another one, I'll post it in the periodicals section. They all tend to link to a similar medical site. I've linked to one in the past, but I can't say which one it was. The good news is that the word is getting out there about our condition and doctors are paying attention.  |
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Post by esmee on Jan 14, 2012 1:22:22 GMT -5
it makes perfect sense that magnesium (and calcium, potassium, sodium) would be depleted in a persone with HFI.
The ingestion of fructose by an HFI-er will cause systemic acidosis, and all of the above minerals are alkaline. I crave salt when I eat fruit. Many others seem to crave milk. Both of these are the body's way of screaming at us to reduce the acidosis I believe.
esmée ♥
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Post by tikitavi on Jan 14, 2012 4:49:54 GMT -5
I used to get vicious foot cramps all the time till I started eating a fructose-free diet!
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Post by ukbill on Jan 15, 2012 21:06:34 GMT -5
I don't know about magnesium regarding heart timing issues but I know from a friend with a pacemaker (his 6th!) that Potassium is critical to the proper operating of the heart I seem to remember something about space astronauts in the early days of Skylab having problems with heart timing as a result of low potassium levels.
Also think Potassium is used to stop the heart during heart operations.
So too much is a really bad thing!
Also bear in mind that minerals and vitamins interact with each other. if you are on a calcium supplement it will reduce your bodies ability to adsorb other minerals..like Phosphorous (if I can remember back to my animal diet training 30 + years ago!)
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