Steroids

[John]

I have hereditary fructose intolerance, already diagnosed, but recently "poisoned" myself so much to the point I was in bed for 6 months with hipoglicemia and all other symptoms related to this condition..Including ostheoporosis..So I'm considering taking deca durabolin ( nandrolone ) wich helps repair tissues, including boné degeneration, however I don't know if the some of the ingredients  in this drug are totally safe, and I will list them below:


_ peanut / soy oil

_ Benzyl alcohol


As far as I know the other " ingredients" are safe..


What do you guys think? We already have weak livers and kidneys, specially me at this point, do you think its safe?

[colormist]

Peanuts and soy both have fructose in them. There's likely to be trace amounts in the meds. I'm not sure about Benzyl alcohol. It's up to you as to whether you feel you're well enough to solder through the impact that that amount of fructose would have on your symptoms. You might also talk to your doctor and see what they think about the effect the meds might have.

[John]

Thanks colormist for allways being active in this site, I read on another thread that you use peanut oil, i don't know if you still use, the vial has 1 ml of oil, according to nutrition data there's 0% carbs in 100 g of peanut oil, I don't know how much 1 ml of peanut oil corresponds to in grams but wouldnt it be safe?

[colormist]

I do occasionally use peanut oil when cooking Chinese or Indian food. I always feel a /little/ off for a few days later. The amount I'm using (30-60 ML, of which I probably consume between 15-30 ML) is significantly more than what you would be exposing yourself to. I can have this kind of meal safely once a month, but definitely not twice in one week.

I mean, if you were not just rebounding from an awful attack AND if it wasn't steroids, then I might suggest a trial. But I know that steroids require a specific dose and then a progressive reduction of that dose, so it's not like you can try it and then stop suddenly.

I am not suggesting you do one thing or another, but hopefully this is enough information for you to make a decision based on how you currently feel.

[John]

The fact that you're eating chinese food/ indian food wich if im not mistaken is usually full of spices and condiments is self explanatory as to why you feel bad, I guess.. Although it could also be the oil, but I would much rather suspect to be the herbs, yes, I will try this, In fact I just started the injections yesterday, 2 ml - 500 mg of testosterone enanthate, haven't injected yet the nandrolone (deca durabolin) wich as the peanut oil, this drug I injected as also oil, but castor oil, so far I didn´t feel " poisend yet".. hopefully all goes well..but thanks again for replying, its sad that this fórum is so unactive 

[John]

Forgot to mention, I will need to take also na aromataze inhibitor during and post cycle, do you think the ingredientes of this medicine are safe?


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[colormist]

I make my own Chinese/Indian dishes from scratch so I can control what ingredients go in. Eating either at a restaurant or take out is a recipe for disaster. Although I do keep trying to find a sugar-free dish at my local restaurants, I usually end up eating a tiny bit and giving the rest to my husband--he takes too much delight in finding out I can't eat my dinner.

It looks like the ingredients you listed are safe. Lactose seems to be the only sugar, and that's one of the safe HFI sugars.

[ukbill]

Never noticed any problem with Peanut oil but Soy oil and other nut oils like Brazil and walnut oil, although I am not certain how pure the oils are they may well be cheapened and "watered down" with cheaper soy oil, for me is really not a good idea.

For some reason I get HFI type symptoms and really feel ill after eating anything with Soy Protein (soy meat substitutes and similar made form "vegetable protein) or Soy oil in it. even soap made with Soy oil seems not to be liked by my skin.. so possibly simply a normal allergy and nothing to do with HFI.. but how can I tell?

OK so just a question I have chatted to several people on the forum years ago who were in the final stages of killing themselves with inappropriate diets.

This is why I spent a long time investigating the manufacture and refinement of Glucose and laterly Dextrose.

What I discovered was that solid Glucose can be upto 40% "OTHER SUGARS" and legally sold as 100% pure glucose!

Most of the people who were dying were mainlining on Glucose and were trapped in a downward spiral of low blood sugar as a result of fructose contaminated Glucose and the only way around it was to take more contaminated Glucose.. with end results like yours and much worse.

Unfortunately a couple of them died (or disappeared off the forum) before I could come back with the proof of my suspicion that if everything in a persons diet was safe then the glucose had to be the culprit.

Not everyone believed me of course, and some were very antagonistic and aggressive and against my research (parents of HFI children mostly) even going behind the Forum to message parents of HFI children telling them to ignore my findings and keep feeding their children glucose because for one "reason" it is "cultural" would you believe!

Anyway rant over I would be interested in knowing what made you so ill?

Do / did you use Glucose or other sweeteners?

Mostly I am interested in learning more about our condition and how people get themselves into trouble.

Knowledge is useful to help parents of HFI children get their advice and training of their children right so they can lead a healthy happy long life.

If you can help me and we can avoid one child having one bad "reaction" then all our efforts will be worth while.

Keep smiling

[ukbill]

Colormist Ref Chinese Veg

I used to eat a lot of water chestnuts however recently I had a iffy experience with them I had only fish, rice, mushrooms, and water chestnuts in the meal (having run out of Bamboo shoots)

It may have been a rogue tin but then been as the water chestnuts are a root storage container for a rhizome type plant.. some Fructose has to be assumed (as in Potatoes, radishes, Beets of all sorts, Artichokes etc etc.)

Or it may have been simply a different variety of water chestnut as in potatoes where the Fructose load is very variable depending on variety and purity of of the specific variety, farmers own seed potatoes replanted can be a problem if the crop was last season down wind of a variety that is very sweet, the new crop can be a hybrid variety and not at all good for us.

Good to see you are well.

[colormist]

I can't find any data on water chestnuts at all. They don't taste like the have fructose in them, but who knows?! Bamboo shoots I use with caution. They taste a bit more sweet than water chestnuts and the nutrition data website says they have 2.5g of sugar per serving, but doesn't break down those sugars.

[jenn123]

The csid website has canned water chestnuts at zero for glucose, sucrose and fructose. Looks like I am going to the store 😊
csidcares.org/food-vegetables/

[colormist]

Ah! I looked there, but I typed in "water chestnuts" into the search and not "waterchestnuts" *sigh*

Looks good to me, though! Also check the canned variety to make sure they aren't flavored at all!

My mom makes water chestnuts wrapped in bacon and bakes them in the oven. She smothers everything in a sweet sauce, though. There might be a modification that we could do that would make this HFI-safe. I'll have to discuss it with her to see what she thinks.