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Post by orchid22 on Jul 19, 2015 17:27:03 GMT -5
I've been fascinated with how the body itself can produce fructose and came across this study www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-09/uocd-rlo091013.phpMy question is- how do we prevent this from happening if we can only eat high glycemic carbohydrates? Is it limiting carbs? And to what degree? Does anyone here feel really great all the time and if so, what does a great day look like? I know what we can and cannot eat but wonder if you then have small meals all day or limit intake. Thank you!!
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Post by colormist on Jul 20, 2015 8:32:02 GMT -5
Without knowing a bit more about the process the liver goes through to produce fructose, I can't say for sure whether or not this is a concern for people with HFI. I did comment on this video (https://youtu.be/nY8RWcdfsfU) about HFI on YouTube and the narrator responded to me, so I might ask her to see if she knows if people with HFI can produce fructose. Given that video, I would say no. Since Aldolase B is required to break down fructose, that productions line might also play a role in creating fructose. It's just a theory, but I'll let you know if I hear back from the speaker in that video.
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Post by colormist on Jul 20, 2015 13:19:35 GMT -5
Got a response from Jennie Sanders! She's so quick! "The liver "creates" fructose as a fructose-1,6-bisphosphate as part of glycolysis (breaking down glucose for energy), and HFI does not interfere with this process. Hope that helps. " Glycolysis comes in after the Aldolase B step. I guess it just stores the fructose until it thinks about using it for energy? Maybe that would explain why I get all hypoglycemic first thing in the morning. I don't think there's any way to avoid your body from manufacturing fructose, honestly. A large chunk of the food we eat is full of glucose, dextrose, and starches and we kind of really need glucose in order for our brains and bodies to work. I did try to eat low-carb for a month or two, but I ended up having to have my gallbladder removed. Low-carb diets are safer for people who can eat vegetables and whole grains. I got grossed out by the diet really quick. I'm not very fond of eating animals or greasy, fatty foods. I'm not even sure if low-carb diets would stop the body from producing fructose.
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Post by orchid22 on Jul 30, 2015 11:21:37 GMT -5
Thank you for finding that out! Since I'm constantly battling hypoglycemia- even when I feel I'm eating well as a HFI person- I wondered about this. I feel if I overdo the carbs, I feel a low also and I wondered if the overload of carbs were converting to fructose. So complicated wish we knew more. Thank you!
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Post by ukbill on Oct 12, 2016 1:06:26 GMT -5
The conversion of body fat back into energy creates some pure Fructose which is why we feel so damn rotten when we diet... and get slightly lower blood sugar levels than normal after a 12 hour starvation.. If I work hard without having eaten before I will go Hypo 100% of the time. drinking lots of water seems to help. If your still going Hypo on a regular basis I have to ask are you using Glucose?? if so thats the culprit. Commercially available Glucose is made form Corn.. sweet corn.. which contains at least 4% sugar and this is not removed in the processing.. It is also made in the same factory / processing plant as HFCS with is just an additional process after turning the Corn soup into Glucose and it uses the same pipes storage vessels etc.. etc... Also if solid Glucose is made by the Acid process it can and will contain up to 40% " other sugars" and yet still be legally called 100% pure glucose! Which is why eating sweeties and giving them to HFI children is not a good idea. This if your not aware of it might explain your frequent Hypo attacks?? Keep smiling
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Post by oneladyff on Nov 20, 2016 0:29:51 GMT -5
I have been on a gross diet for two yrs now since I was diagnosed via DNA and finding that I have liver damage from it. My diet consists of Meat of any form including fish and Cheese and eggs. I occasional cheat with a bowl of old Oats for breakfast. I also drink plain coffee, tea and water and that is it. My enzymes are lower now. My fatty liver went from 80% to 30% on my last biopsy.
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Post by ukbill on Nov 21, 2016 14:43:32 GMT -5
Good News onladyff!
it will take about 6 or more months for the diet to really kick in and make a BIG difference in your life! I am presuming becasue you had bad liver damage it will take longer to repair itself and so your recovery time will be longer.
IF you can get plain white rice (basmati is best flavoured) with out the added vitamins I know are added to most rice n the USA (stuck on using sugar!) that will add to your diet a lot of possibilities (research stir frying).
Some Potatoes (floury types not Waxy!) are safe'ish if cooked in enough water (a soak after peeling and cutting up will help too if you change the water before cooking)
Dried or fresh Pasta is safe too if cooked in enough water.
Look at the labels of every thing you buy. do not however rely 100% on them. \JUst eating a plate of Sausages and mash potato with grilled mushrooms (covered in cheese). New potatoes are out and unsafe but old maincrop potatoes are a lot safer.
At a guess you have a sweet tooth and like sweet flavours?? if so do not thing Glucose is safe it is not HFI safe (it can legally contain upto "40% other sugars" and still be sold as 100% pure glucose).. Dextrose seems to be far safer if you really must have something sweet flavoured.
Hope this helps??
Regards
Bill A.
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