esmee
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Post by esmee on Feb 26, 2012 14:26:26 GMT -5
Have any of you tried buckwheat grouts or flour?
According to the Fineli database, it has very tiny amounts ouf sucrose/fructose at levels comparable to white rice.
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Post by susan on Feb 26, 2012 14:40:46 GMT -5
I guess the term porridge applies to any grain base mash cooked in water or milks. There are countless mixtures of grains, berries, tubers, and more. I just put together things I know I like and tolerate. I might even throw in some okay nuts. Porridges are one way I make sure I get my fiber. My husband's home country often put in ground or mashed meats for a very savory mixture. Any temperature is okay with me. I love real butter in things.
Corrected spelling. The joke is on me.
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Post by esmee on Feb 26, 2012 17:50:37 GMT -5
Susan, do you personally do okay with buckwheat?
How do partridges give your fiber? Aren't they a bird? I don't recall meat containing fiber.
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Post by susan on Feb 26, 2012 19:09:17 GMT -5
Maybe my tolerance is more. I usually eat according to my "taste". I have always considered myself ulta sensitive. As a kid, I could tell the differences in the taste of milk, different breeds or changes in their feed. There are even sweet lemons which are different than sour lemons. Anyway... Unfortunately, grains can be over processed and have all their fiber removed. Whole grains are fibrous. The grains are usually just cut or ground into different textures. If you look at oats you will see brown spots. That is fiber. White rice is processed to have the hulls removed.
I can taste the sweetness in brown rice...but can tolerate it if I have have not overloaded that day. I will throw in a small amount of brown rice into oats sometimes. I eat a variety of grains all mixed together. My husbands culture has introduced foods which are not in the American diet.
If I know I need more fiber, I might eat uncooked rolled oats and milk..like cereal. Also, I love lentils boiled with salt and pepper until soft to eat,,,,and of course...add real butter. For me...I get cleaned out...
You know your body best. I am appreciating a statement I read here. I have become more thoughtful after reading the statement. The statement was something like, "tolerating does not mean it is good for you". At the same time I think about balance. Coffee is an example, one day the news will say it is bad for you, the next day coffee has something good for you.
Brown rice may have some sweetness which is bad. Okay...Well...
to be so constipated and have all those other poisons build up in my body is not good either. Or to get an intestinal blockage....not good.
I try to think health according to MY body while considering my overall health needs, while paying attention to my sugar sensitivity. I was eating so many avocados for a while...I now have developed an aversion to them. And I like them. I have to avoid them for a time.
Your body will let you know.
There are so many different levels of tolerances with us. I keep finding more scientific journals saying they are finding more and more gene variations of this THING. I'm thinking all those gene variances might explain all the variances in our tastes and tolerances. Amazing.
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Post by esmee on Feb 26, 2012 20:23:24 GMT -5
Thank you, Susan. I think I misunderstood you because of a mispelling. You wrote "partridge" when what I think you meant was "porridge." Now I understand. Okay, so you can personally handle some whole grains and legumes as long as you do not go overboard. However, I would still be interested to know if you have ever tried buckwheat specifically. Can you share some of the foods from your husband's home country that you can eat that we might not be familiar with? I completely agree that sometimes the benefits of eating a food with a small amount of fructose might be necessary in order to avoid a different problem like constipation. Unfortunately, most HFI safe foods can be very constipating, and it is definitely not healthy for toxins to sit in the colon and be recirculated by the liver. There is a very interesting article on this issue by Karen Hurd that you might like: www.karenhurd.com/pages/healthtopics/specifichealthconcerns/ht-shc-gallbladderdisease.html Her article explains just how beneficial legumes are in this regard.
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Post by tikitavi on Feb 27, 2012 5:32:15 GMT -5
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Post by susan on Feb 27, 2012 19:08:14 GMT -5
Buckwheat is okay with me. But I have had premixed, store bought, buckwheat pancake mixes or restaurant buckwheat pancakes,,,and these do not settle well at all. Too sweet even without syrup.
Self raising flour is okay for me. Or I might get out my baking powder and soda, and make my own. If I make my own pancakes I will throw in whatever is handy..left over porridge, nut slices, poppy seeds, sesame seeds,,,
(Spell check is a blessing and a curse. Did I spell things correctly?)
I will go to recipes for some ideas from my husband's country.
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Post by susan on Feb 27, 2012 21:02:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the article about the gallbladder, legumes, and the need to be "cleaned out."
My father actually had to have his gallbladder removed.
Someone here said something like...living with HFI can be hard but we might actually be healthier than others who eat garbage.
This is true about my father and myself.
Listen to your body. It will tell you what you need if you listen respectfully.
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Post by buddhasbelly on Mar 1, 2012 19:22:49 GMT -5
Buckwheat is in my porridge for breakfast every day, but just a small amount (it is a mixture of teff, buckwheat, corn and rice, all in flakes), other wise it bothers me. I cannot eat anything that is 100% plain buckwheat. Not in a fructose-bothers-me way, but it is just too heavy on my stomach. It has some great nutrients for you, so if you can tolerate it, it is a welcome addition to all the white rice!
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Post by Trish2 on Jul 20, 2015 18:00:35 GMT -5
Can anyone please tell me What the Monash App means when it says you can have say 1/2 a banana and say so many grams of some other fruit and it is safe to eat. Do they mean in a day one amount or do you add the both together?
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Post by colormist on Jul 21, 2015 8:27:32 GMT -5
Hi Trish, If you have HFI or suspect you might have HFI, you shouldn't be eating any fruit at all. None. Zero. If it's fruity, don't eat it. All fruits have fructose.
I'm not sure what this Monash App is, but it doesn't sound like it applies to the HFI diet at all. Does it follow the FODMAP diet? I know that FODMAP suggests some fruits (like bananas) are okay in moderation, but the FODMAP diet is not safe for people with HFI.
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Post by charlie on Jul 22, 2015 15:49:31 GMT -5
Yes, the monash app is designed for Fructose Malabsorption and Irritable bowel, not HFI. Bananas are definately a no go for HFI.
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