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Post by diogosoldatti on May 22, 2014 5:54:19 GMT -5
Due to a severe anemia, someone recomended eating raw or cooked but very rare beef liver. I find taste ofvit sweet,and as liver stores glycogen,and other nutrients,could it store also fructose? Or since the animal probably is healthy and doesnt have problems dealing with fructose, even if the diet of the animal was fructose rich,the fructose properly metabolized would convert into glucose in the liver,and wouldnt collect there therefore causing issues to an hfi sufferer? I would apreciatte an answer,because im severly anemic,and liver and transfusion are my only options,but i would prefer to reverse this with food than with a transfusion..thanks guys
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Post by charlie on May 22, 2014 13:24:58 GMT -5
I would imagine the fructose would already have been metabolized by the animal therefore not a problem. There are horses that have metabolic syndromes and problems digesting sugars but not heard of it in farm animals. Can you take iron supplements and maybe also a little spinach, that is low fructose as long as you don't have too much. Do they know why you are so anemic, is the bowel having absorption problems, is your general mineral balance good. There are various mechanisms that can affect absorption, will look up my list and get back to you on those. Found a bit:
Nutritional deficiency. This can result due to a lack of dietary iron or consumption of foods that inhibit iron absorption, including calcium, phytates and tannins. Black tea steeped for long has high tannins. Inability to absorb iron because of damage to the intestinal lining. Examples of causes of this kind of damage include surgery involving the duodenum, or diseases like Crohn's or celiac sprue which severely reduce the surface area available for absorption.
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Post by lucky on May 22, 2014 19:20:46 GMT -5
Keep in mind:
* Iron absorption heavily relies on having vitamin C in the system. * Vitamin C does NOT store in the body. It must be taken daily. * If vitamin D is low, it can also drag down iron levels. So... If you don't have enough vitamin C in your system, daily, the iron rich foods you are eating may not be absorbing. Or absorbing to the amount needed to keep balanced. And... then there's the D. If low, it can also lower iron levels. *Interestingly, for those with growing children :: D stores tend to dip in growth spurts.
Daily vitamin D recommendations have dramatically changed recently. Are you getting enough?
Could any of these be a factor in your body's low iron stores?
What has your specialist recommended? Has a full blood test (vitamin counts too) been done? If iron is very low, have you been advised to take B12 along with iron supplements to start helping boost reserves quickly?
Have blood tests / specialists concluded you need a transfusion? If so... then do. Always listen to medical specialists.
And.... I would never eat raw liver. Goodness. Cook it for safety, if not for taste.
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May 23, 2014 18:21:08 GMT -5
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Post by diogosoldatti on May 23, 2014 18:21:08 GMT -5
I am very low in in vitamin b12 ,iron,and other vitamins and minerals, also very low in vitamin c. I have also lost a lot of bone mass because of fructose ingestion,when trying to figure out if i was hfi for myself. And i am self diagnosed,because i wont do any biopsy nor spend money in medical procedures because ive already figured out that the reason why my life sucks is FRUCTOSE. I cant eat it. the problem is that ive comitted the error several times of eating fruits and vegetables and honey, and the reason why i am so weak right now is because of an ingestion a month ago,i never felt so bad,i nearly died. But i took responsability of my health and i will never put life in the hands of the medical profession for treatments,because ive been treated very poorly in the past,so im trying to do the best i can in a natural way if possible,that is,with food. :ust wanted to know if its safe to eat livers,specially beef liver,wich i find it sweet tasting(raw) and my doubt was if that sweet taste came from the glycogen,or glucose,or fructose, Thank you guys for all the repllys i really aapreciate it,only god knows whow one can suffer with this hfi.
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Post by lucky on May 23, 2014 19:37:32 GMT -5
Excuse my asking...
If you are anti-medical establishment... (-which is, of course your right-)
How do you know that you are *severely anemic *low in the above nutrients *in dire need of a transfusion
Is this self assessed (through self awareness)? OR.. have you recently seen a specialist to diagnose you with such?
Forgetting the HFI part for now... Your above statement regarding the status of your health is quite bold IF not currently being assessed (and monitored) by a medical doctor. Have you had recent blood tests to confirm the severity?
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Post by diogosoldatti on May 24, 2014 1:18:30 GMT -5
Yes, i did the blood tests, no self awareness would tell me precisely what vitamins im low in. Thats was the only thing i needed, and it was recomended urgent treatment due to the bloodwork results. I want to try with food first,and thankfully i feel a litle better today then a few weeks behind.. But im not eating yet the liver in the amount i should because it tastes really sweet,and i am afraid,but im eating raw beef and white rice and i believe things may get back to "normal". If i dont see any improvements of course i will have to have medical help,as i forgot to mention,other than in urgency that i may be close to death i wouldnt let them treat me, like an accident or something,or something that would reuire urgent intervention,other than that i want distance as much as possible from the medical industry and i have my reasons for such take on it.
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Post by charlie on May 25, 2014 5:07:56 GMT -5
OK Diogosoldatti, I have read your past posts and these and want to try to help you, this is not a personal attack, just gentle advice from one who has been through the turmoil of getting a diagnosis for my child. You are only 20, I don't know your past history, it obviously has not been good from what you have said already but 20 is far too young to have such a blocked opinion of the medical profession and to imply you know more than them. I don't know the Portugese medical system but they will have studied for years, long and hard to get where they are, but they won't know everything and you may just not have had the right doctor yet. do some research and find out if there is someone better out there. Self diagnosis MUST be done very carefully, yes you know your body best but there are so many things that may be the problem at this stage that to take the route that you are could mean you are wrongly limiting your diet causing other health problems. So many times we have had people who have come on here swearing that this is the answer but slowly with advice have realised that they do not have HFI. You have obviously felt very ill in the past, I hope you are not over dramatising your situation but maybe you need to open your mind and work respectfully with the medical profession you have access to to get full answers so that you can go on to live a long and fruitful life like Fred on here......... Firstly alot of doctors will not have come across these conditions, but may be open minded to it if you print out some information about the condition and ask them respectfully to consider it. That is how we ended up with the right diagnosis for my daughter in the end. I could have put my life on the fact that she had HFI when she was a toddler, slowly I realised that was not the case and finally got the right diagnosis and a massive improvement in her life as a result. Do they have access to the genetic testing, that would be your best starting point. Get general bloods done and ask for a copy of the report so you can assess them yourself as well. Be very, very cautious about your current plan for your diet, our bodies are not designed to metabolise only raw foods, you will be far better to have a balanced diet of quality cooked meats, fish, cheese, eggs, milk if you don't feel you have dairy issues (which HFI sufferers do not have as HFI). Add in fats and a small amount of carbohydrates such as white rice, old white potatoes as a diet too high in protein causes other problems. Give your body a nutritionally based diet so it has the calories to maintain a 20 year old male physique and slowly hopefully you should start to feel stronger and cope better. then start adding in things to see where you go with that.
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