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Post by nicoleh on Aug 1, 2013 21:47:08 GMT -5
HI Bill,
any dextrose that we can get here is about 10% fructose, from what muscle testing tells me but even aside from that DD definitely reacts to this if I eat it.
I don't understand why stevia is not ok? I am not using the whole powdered herb (the green stuff) but the white extracted steviosides. She doesn't seem to have a problem with it. I know it says not tolerated on the boston uni lab but I don't get why. perhaps just because, as it says, it has not been evaluated for safety yet. Either way, DD seems fine, it's a pure product and the molecules - the steviosides have no relationship to fructose, so it should be ok. I would love it if some more research was done on it!
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Post by ukbill on Aug 1, 2013 23:02:25 GMT -5
Nicoleh,
Sorry I cannot remember the research or where it came from all I can say is perhaps try a tiny amount, your daughter is ultra sensitive and I mean ULTRA sensitive, so I'm sure if its wrong for her she will detect it and let you know in the usual way.
If you have a dig on here using the forum search engine you might find the relevant research as to why its a No-No for HFI people.
I suspect 10 % fructose would be detectable as a contaminant on just about any analysis machine. It will not be that high or even close to it if the Dextrose is made from rice (Japanese made dextrose is the gold standard for use in medical research jobs I'm led to believe).
So far as I can discover the usual contaminant of Glucose is about 4% sugar (from the sweet corn) Now I know that is enough to kill HFI people because it has done in the past, or at least the people who used to be on this forum and who were terminally ill with liver, kidney failure etc used to take a lot of it, in fact they nearly lived on it (sorry no pun intended).
People who have gone from Glucose (with up to 4% contamination, which if its sucrose will be only 2% fructose) to Dextrose have shown a marked improvement and generally so far as has been reported seem able to handle the contamination (at whatever level it is) and live much healthier happier lives.
They would not be doing this if its got 10% contamination with Fructose.
You are right to be cautious though because anyone could pass off solid ground confectionery glucose ( which contains up to 40% "other sugars") as dextrose and no one but an HFI and an analytic chemist would ever be able to tell the difference.
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Post by nicoleh on Aug 2, 2013 7:22:09 GMT -5
this is corn-based dextrose made in china. probably not the greatest quality!
re the stevia, she's definitely ok with me having it - I would not give it to her because she'd hate it anyway!
I read the stevia thread. the main worry seemed to be about contamination.
BUT - even if it is contaminated, being from a plant, the amount you use is so tiny that it wouldnt' matter. With stevia you use a similar amount to the sweetest artificial sweetener, so even if the stevia powder was pure fructose, you'd probably not have much of a reaction with the smallest pinch you can put in. I literally dip the tip of my dry finger in the bottle, then shake off the powder and stir my finger into the mixture I'm making. A one-week supply of daily custard for my dessert has 3 tiny tiny pinches of stevia in it. So the contamination issue is barely a worry.
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Post by jejns1 on Aug 2, 2013 7:59:51 GMT -5
We use "NOW Foods" Dextrose and have found this is the best one. we were buying dextrose from a wine making shop but felt that it was still throwing the kids off a bit.
we are staying away from it as much as possible but use a little in pancakes (our great safe recipe) and oatmeal cookies sometimes.
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Post by ukbill on Aug 2, 2013 10:11:06 GMT -5
Made in China!..
err they have NO health / quality laws!
They have no laws for accurate description of contents, they have little to no laws on anything to do with food!
Throw it away! You will be lucky if it is even 50% glucose or dextrose.
Recently they had children's milk contaminated with Melamine (100's died, 1,000's health damaged)
Chinese people, who can afford it, buy German baby milk (and spend nearly all their income on it) because locally made stuff is poisonous and can be contaminated with anything!
Sorry to be disparaging of a country of many billions of people but their stuff is not safe.
OK a lot will be but because there are no laws and less enforcement of what laws exist its just not safe.
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