Let's talk teeth

[Tammy]

I was just checking the sweetarts page to see what they say about it. (made by Nestle, under the willy wonka division). I wasn't able to see what they say since I am at work and they have game links on their pages for kids. The gods of ConAgra have all game pages blocked. BUT what I did find was an updated nutrition link which says they have now reformulated the Sugar-Free Nesquick chocolate milk powder. It is now made with Splenda. So.............. I now have sent an e-mail out to all my relatives to buy all they can find on the shelves with the old formula. I just hope I'm not too late. I don't know when they changed. Regina will be heartbroken when she runs out of chocolate milk.

[colormist]

Oh, that's just depressing. Why does everyone have to jump on the Splenda bandwagon. Why couldn't they have two versions? One with splenda, one without.

I wonder if there's another generic product out there that could replace it--or maybe you can make a DIY chocolate milk powder?

Now I want to go buy the old Nestle just because. I bet Odd Lots/Big Lots would still have a lot of the old brand. Don't forget to check there, too.

[Tammy]

Okay, I finally got home from work, and the web site www.wonka.com/products/ says that the original sweetarts are still ok. Some of the new stuff has sugar / corn syrups in them. We must still just get the old regular ones here since they still seem to be ok for Regina.

As for the chocolate, I've never found any other kind that was ok for her. Guess I'll soon have to start looking again, though. I didn't think about Big Lots, but I will definately check it out. We have some amish stores around here that quite often sell old, even out-dated stuff. I may get lucky there, too.

[esmee]

i am not a confirmed HFI, but i have most all the symptoms.

i had several adult molars come in with cavities which i was told by my mother, who was dental hygienist, was a growth defect and a consequence of bad dental hygiene (which was quite good since that was her profession. I have never had another cavity since, thought i have had to have fillings in my original cavities replaced when they wear out. my teeth have been very sensitive to sugar ever since i can remember (early teens) and if i eat fruit (which i was doing before i discovered HFI) my teeth will absolutely start to kill me. i suspect that i was able to eat enough sweets without getting violently ill, as some of you have, that the pH of my mouth turned very acid and eroded the protective enamel. if i eat fruit (or any sugar) my mouth will taste sour almost immediately. i never could figure out why this did not happen to others, but i now think it was a symptom of the HFI.

[tikitavi]

Wow, Esmee, your teeth sound just like mine! A few of my adult molars came in with a defect. It was not a cavity, but the dentist at that time wanted to fill them just to "be safe". However, my dentist now says he would not have done that. I have no cavities at all (knock on wood). If I eat sweets, my teeth get very sensitive, just like you.

I am not confirmed HFI either, but I am self-diagnosing through careful food journaling for years.

[nlfitness]

Since this one is backup to the top I will respond as well. I am 28 and have never bad a cavity my self. And that was after a 6 year dental break...wow yeah k just admitted that. However other then some excessive plaque buildup the dentist saidy teethe were perfect. I have always had an issue with developing more plaque, and he figured it was due to a higher protein diet.

I also consume a pretty good amount of milk. Up to a gallon a day when I was a kid. Lol my parents used to always kid about buying a cow for me to put in the back yard!

[esmee]

I should add that i never liked milk and never drank it or put it on my cereal. I did eat cheese those and that may have provided extra calcium.

i went over 10 years without seeing a dentist. my mother had been the only one to ever clean my teeth my whole life and she retired and i just never wanted to let anyone else do it. when i finally went, all was perfectly fine.

[ukbill]

No fillings only two crowns and that was because of a rubbish dentist who could not fill a crack in a molar properly and did not tell me that by using a ceramic filling (which would cost a little more) I would not ever have problems again.. he had to drill my second molar to get at the first one because the inferior amalgam he was using kept breaking up every 6 months.

I then had two molars with fillings that kept breaking up!.

Family wise all my siblings and parents have very weak teeth and loads of fillings!

Did have bad plaque problems though, until bought new electric toothbrush and new top of the range tooth paste.. now no problems last 12 months.

Most HFI people in the UK were originally diagnosed after being referred by dentists because they were the only children with perfect teeth!

[esmee]

i wonder if the saliva is more acidic than normal due to ingestion of fructose (however slight) and therefore bacteria that cause decay cannot live in the mouths of HFI-ers?

[ukbill]

I think its more likely to be sugar in general.

Glucose is the power fuel for all life (well oxygen breathing life anyway. )

If you take Glucose the bacteria in your mouth have a field day and can breed like mad! I seem to remember reading or being told by a dentist that as a result of bacteria eating Glucose they excrete acid.. which then devolves the teeth!

Sugary drinks that are already acidic (like a fruit sports drink) will give your teeth a really bad time as they get a double wham, acid and yet more acid and lots more bacteria.

[carolyn]

I've reached the tender age of 53 without a filling- always something the dentist comments on. I threw up quite regularly as a child every xmas & birthday & at other times in between. Unfortunately I clench my teeth like mad during the night, which has cracked two bottom ones, such that one had to be removed. I'm trying to preserve the other one by wearing a very unsexy bite guard at night!
Pixie stix sound wonderful! Wish we had them in the UK. As a child there was a small village post office that used to sell little small square sweets called 'Lemfizz'. They were delicious & were dextrose or glucose based I think. Wish they still made them!

[susan]

I had braces. The old fashioned kind. Damage was caused from them and I had repair work.
I am now cavity free.

Did anyone else have crooked teeth or any other bite problems?
Susan

[esmee]

Hi Susan,

I had a pretty severe over-bite which required many long years of head-gear and braces to fix (the old fashioned kind). I don't know how i ever lived through that, ugh...but it was worth it. ;D

disclaimer: i have not been officially diagnosed with HFI.

[ukbill]

Susan "Did anyone else have crooked teeth or any other bite problems?
Susan"

Yes I did but then so have all my children (who do not have HFI and most children I know.

These days almost all children have dental corrections for Bite and straightness.

It is free under the age of 18 here in the UK (good old NHS

[esmee]

This question is not about teeth, but still pertains to the mouth region.

Anyone on here, who was undiagnosed as a child and consequently continued to ingest some fructose, who had frequent canker sores inside their mouth as a child?

[colormist]

My sister (who does not have HFI) had serious teeth issues (overlapping). I did not have issues (aside from cavities from poor dental hygiene) other than really spaced out teeth. I have a gap between my front and bottom teeth--they line up perfectly. I also have an overbite, but nothing that's bothered me.

I do get canker sores really bad, though. My dental hygienist put one of them up on the tv screen (awesome, thanks--I wanted everyone to see them) while I was getting my teeth cleaned. It was in the back of my throat. I thought I had a sore throat and she was amazed at how large it was. I'm pretty sure I have one or two really small ones in my mouth right now.

I tend to think these are caused by either stress, a lack of Vitamin C, or illness, but I'm not sure.

[MatNear]

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